is boric acid bad for cats

Boric acid has a low toxicity in cats unless ingested in large amounts. Vomiting, diarrhea, seizures and incoordination all can occur when that happens. The only treatment for ingestion is IV fluid therapy to flush it from the body. If the cat does not drool or vomit, she did not ingest enough to cause a problem.

Can boric acid kill a cat?

thumbs down signYes, Boric Acid is most certainly a toxic danger to Cats and can kill the cat if it is ingested. I just had a tragic experience with this after a kitten I adopted out to someone stupidly treated his carpets with Boric acid and LEFT it in the carpet without vacuuming it up. The cat inadvertently ingested some, and it did kill her. Forget the misinformed person who keeps saying that Boric acid wont kill a cat, it most certainly can. There are safer alternatives to employ that dont involve possible death. See actual scientific info here: ehow.com/facts_5875697_toxic-borax-cats_.html

Hi Stacey. Very sorry about your cat! Condolences 🙁

However, that page of actual scientific information starts off completely incorrectly, ludicrously stating: “What is Borax?” Borax is also known as boric acid. ” 🙂 It most assuredly isnt! Borax is Na2B4O7. 10H2O; boric acid is H3BO3. That useless ehow page is absolutely absurd; “scientific data” is the furthest thing from what it is.

According to “Boric Acid/ Borates/ Borax Beyond Pesticides Rating: Least Toxic” at Beyond Pesticides“: “Boric acid … is a low-toxicity mineral with insecticidal, fungicidal, and herbicidal properties … however it can still pose health hazards and should be used with care.”

According to “Common Cat Toxicities” at Cornell University Department of Animal Science www.ansci.cornell.edu/plants/toxcat/toxcat.html “… boric acid … has a low oral toxicity.”

However, consuming large amounts of it by cats or any other animal is undoubtedly unsafe; James mentioned having pets that survived but became ill from it, and I was responding to Mari-Alice’s inquiry about using boric acid as an eyewash rather than consuming it. Again, sorry for your loss.

Hi Ted, Thanks for your input but the original question was is boric acid safe, so yes, “we” are talking about boric acid in general, “you” were talking about an eye wash 🙂 Heres another link which stipulates that extreme care should be taken to ensure that small animals do NOT have any direct contact with the substance: www.vetinfo.com/cat-flea-treatment-boric-acid.html Better to err on the side of caution, and find a product equally useful, minus the poisoning dangers. Makes good sense, doesnt it?

Hi Stacey. I’m not here to cause trouble for a bereaved pet owner, and if you know of a product that is just as helpful but less harmful, that would be great. However, the link you provided indicates that using boric acid to clean carpets is crucial, not something to avoid doing.

When I said that boric acid wouldn’t kill Mary-Alice’s cat, she was referring to it as an eyewash. You replied, “Forget the ignorant person who keeps saying that boric acid won’t kill a cat.” Indeed, it is simple for people to misunderstand one another when a thread veers off course. Unfortunately, Juanita did not respond when I asked her to describe the scenario she had in mind. There is only relative safety in certain situations; there is no such thing as “safe.” Individuals have passed away from consuming excessive amounts of water and hot dogs. Hopefully readers will piece together safe strategies.

Boric acid and poisoning of feral cats

Q. I have several feral cats living in my yard. My neighbor has threatened to poison them with boric acid. Will it harm the cats?.

A. Hi Catherine. Yes, certainly it could harm them. Effective poisoning could potentially result in their death.

A. Your post is from 2013. I hope your cats have remained safe. Poisoning these cats would be regarded as animal abuse in New York, where it is a felony that carries a jail sentence. I dont know if this is true in your state. Try to find out. In that case, and should you receive additional threats from this neighbor: Report it to the police. It’s best to have proof on hand, so carry a covert recorder, and speak with your neighbor about this matter in a civil and courteous manner. Try to get them to talk about their threats (e. g. “Is your true intention to poison the helpless cats?”) [Smart phones can usually capture excellent footage and can be carried in a shirt pocket or even held in your hand. Additionally, you can purchase cheap USB drives for computers ($10–20) that can record independently. Check Walmart. com or Amazon. You might also think about leaving your neighbor a note instructing them not to use poison or any other kind of harm to these cats. (You can use a personal reason (e. g. , “They are not harming you,” and/or “I love them.” Because, if you’re lucky, they might reply to your letter by threatening the cats once more or by reiterating earlier threats, which would be additional proof. (Don’t tell them it’s unlawful just yet; you might not receive the desired response!) 2 If everything else fails, is it possible for you to take these cats into your home? Many animal rescuers are skilled in setting traps. Look on internet for cat rescuers nearby. Do you think the cats are friendly and manageable, or are they feral and unmanageable? I’ve brought a few feral cats into my house. They’re amazing, even though you can’t touch them yet.) Take them straight to the vet to be tested for leukemia and AIDS, and make sure the vet can handle feral animals if that’s what they are. (Ask if any rescuers can perform this testing at a low cost for you.) As long as there are no REAL FIGHTERS, AIDS-positive cats can be kept in a safe environment with normal cats. Food, water, and even “play” bites cannot spread the illness. Only DEEP bites are risky. ). Cats with leukemia must be kept apart from cats with AIDS or in regular rooms. Leukemia transfers very easily. In the unfortunate event that the cats have already been put to death, you can attempt to have a civil and courteous discussion with your neighbor about the situation and make a note of it. (e. g. “How could you possibly have the courage to murder these cats?”) (Or, once more, by note In the event that this is a felony in your state, you may still be able to prosecute them if you have sufficient evidence. Good Luck, Jackie.

thumbs up sign We dont know Catherine nor her neighbor, but we do know that Catherine in actively encouraging feral cats, which some people consider an actual danger to their children (and destroyers of small wildlife) — so there may be two sides here. The neighbor may have no actual intention of harming anything, but simply be trying to discourage Catherines hobby from expanding because, as an animal lover himself, hes unhappy about what she is promoting.

Civil conversation is great, and the right answer! . But acting civil while participating in covert recordings and meticulously fabricating it to try to trick your neighbors into being found guilty of felonies? Geez!

Love of animals is a good thing. However, let’s not allow a misanthrope’s “love of animals” to be their last resort:-)

A. The best course of action if you have feral cats in your backyard is to eradicate them as soon as you can, using humane methods. The ecology and the environment suffer greatly from feral cats. They annihilate the native population of small animals and birds and offer nothing of value in exchange. They upset the natural food chain and have a detrimental impact on the ecosystem as a whole. As an avid environmentalist, I see this regularly. Try focusing your energies on something more constructive, like assisting people rather than animals.

thumbs up sign Thanks Ted. There is benefit to calm discussion and seeing the others person point of view. In my wall-to-wall suburbs there hasnt been a snake, raptor, bobcat, weasel, owl, fox, coyote, wolf, or other hunter for at least 75 years. This total elimination of carnivores means that the swarms of chipmunks, squirrels, geese, rabbits, deer, groundhogs and other herbivores in every 100 x 100 lot totally strip bare every vegetable patch & flower garden in spring, then the animals succumb to starvation & disease (we pick up several dead chipmunks and rabbits every fall) … that isnt the natural ecological order either. I dont want a pack of feral cats in my backyard, but Im always happy to see an occasional neighborhood cat passing through the yard as a counterbalance to my completely unnatural suburb, and its ridiculous concentration of chipmunks, rabbits, and squirrels 🙂

I wholeheartedly concur that people should focus on assisting their neighbors rather than attempting to deceive them into committing felonies.

thumbs up sign Thanks Ted C. for your opinion as an Environmentalist. I would disagree that feral cats are useless. Living on a farm, you need to have domestic & feral cats — we called them “mousers” — to eradicate mice, rats, rabbits & other small critters from destroying your garden, animal feed, hay & invading your home. Not to mention the hantavirus that is carried by mice & rats. I have heard stories from neighbors & have seen feral cats scare off deer, which will eat your garden, coyotes that want to dine on your chickens, & even dogs that love to dig up whatever you put in the ground. This is applicable to urban areas too. In Az we have an issue with scorpions which are nearly impossible to eradicate. Any exterminator will tell you the best way to get rid of scorpions is to have a cat, both inside & outside your home. Its not that cats are immune to a scorpions venom, its their fur & skin that wards off the scorpions stinger. My last point is a religious one. God didnt create anything to be “useless”. Every living creature, be it human, animal or insect, has a purpose, even cockroaches. Roaches clean the environment by feeding on decaying organic matter, leaf litter & wood around it. In the process the roaches body traps a lot of atmospheric nitrogen. (Info on roaches from a popular exterminating company.) As an Environmentalist, sure you understand, dont mess with “Mother Nature”. Be blessed!

thumbs down sign To Ted, “the environmentalist”. When they got rid of feral cats, the black plague ensued and killed quite a few people. So please “Mr. Environmentalist”, educate yourself and keep your mouth in check, as we dont want history repeating itself. It is not in any way kind or good for the environment to kill feral cats. Theyve actually done quite a few studies on feral cats and the bird population. Given that most birds can fly, the birds that cats do manage to catch and kill (which are relatively few), are birds that are weaker, and by body weight have less muscle tone than healthier birds; these birds would have died anyways. Birds can fly and easily escape a cat. I see it all the time. A cat also wont take on a bigger bird as they have sharp beaks and can hurt a cat. Once in a great while, a cat manages to catch a bird, but they are not lowering the bird populations around the world. That is more effectively being done by GMO corn, pesticides, climate change and all kinds of other things. Birds also carry a variety of diseases, like the bird flu, which can affect humans (cats dont carry transferrable diseases). Many birds nest in attics and damage roofs and exteriors of homes. The bird population also very much needs to be kept in check. Please stop promoting the idea that feral cats, who are born without a home by no fault of their own, deserve to die. Everyone should encourage others to TNR feral cats. That is what is kind and will keep the population in your area in check. There are local groups in every area that will assist with trap, neuter & return (TNR). And its people like you, Ted the “environmentalist”, who strangely them call themselves environmentalists but have no clue that cats are a very important part of the ecosystem, that need to be called out for your incorrect and ridiculous assertions.

thumbs down sign Hi Nica. You make some good points and are certainly welcome to present them here 🙂 But this isnt Facebook and its toxicity, this is my site where Ive invested 34 years of my life trying to build a community of camaraderie & aloha — and snideness isnt welcome. Express your opinion, but please try to “keep your mouth in check” rather than expressing scorn for others. Thanks! Luck & Regards, pic of Ted Mooney Ted Mooney, P.E. RET Striving to live Aloha finishing.com – Pine Beach, New Jersey

Additionally, I adopted a “feral” cat that was shot in Corpus Christi, Texas, by someone named Ted C. is from. That cat cant walk now. He is a wonderful, cuddly, and amiable cat who most definitely didn’t deserve that outcome. My spouse and I have devoted a significant amount of time and financial resources to aiding this cat, which includes extracting the bullets from him, as he was unjustly shot, probably by someone similar to Ted C. who mistakenly believes that his prized birds are being killed by feral cats Sadly, shooting animals is legal in Texas even though it ought to be in New York, where I’m originally from. We really need to put an end to these lies about cats being the reason behind the decline in bird populations. People like Ted C react harshly and irrationally to this idea. , who oddly think that by advocating the killing of feral cats—and others like him who then go about actively trying to kill them—they’re being environmentalists. Cats and birds have lived together for centuries. The bird issue is not due to cats. Therefore, even though I acknowledge that you think my comment was “toxic,” I just want to make it clear that if you do permit users to post content on your website that actively promotes animal killing, that is not at all peaceful, non-toxic, or aloha. And you have to expect that Ted C. Some people are going to respond to that comment with fervor. I apologize once more for disturbing your website with what you may perceive as a negative attitude, but I believe it was Ted C. who deserved the type of response you gave me. Thanks again & take care.

A. Hi again. The problem this site has is not your opinion about feral cats which, again, is *absolutely welcome*, but your disdain for those who think otherwise and who suggest “humanely as possible” elimination of what they consider dangerous pests. Euthanasia is often suggested as a humane solution for people, let alone feral packs of dogs & cats. Weve now been forced to remove Ted C.s last name because another woman, whose posting were not going to run, and perhaps motivated by a notification from you wrote: “[he] came here to find an additional way to kill feral cats and encourage others” …”those who kill cats often go on to kill people” … “who actively encourages the death of animals is not psychologically sound”. I consider it absolutely outrageous for anyone to imply that someone they dont know is “not psychologically sound” and might “often go on to kill people”, just because they dont share their opinion on feral cats. I know which person I think is “not psychologically sound”! I wont be patronizing her restaurant but I wont be posting her diatribe either. Although Ted C. had his say, so did feral cat lovers Catherine C. & Jackie P. & Kathy M., and now youve had yours. This thread is struggling to return to its mission of discussing the beneficial uses and possible hazards of boric acid rather than being ground zero for a feral cat debate. Meanwhile an adjacent town just passed a new law that it is illegal to encourage homeless feral cats by feeding them 🙂 Best Regards, pic of Ted Mooney Ted Mooney, P.E. RET Striving to live Aloha finishing.com – Pine Beach, New Jersey

Boric acid as ant poison

thumbs up signI just used a mixture of borax [on eBay or Amazon affil links] (laundry soap), sugar and hot water in a container with holes in the lid, I tipped it over and some ran out on the lawn. Ive been researching and of course, you should never let your animal eat anything off the ground, but the amount in the container would have to be fully ingested by a cat or dog to be toxic, and death is not the reaction that would ensue. 5 tbsp of borax and 5 tbls of sugar and 1/2 cup of warm water in a container with holes turned over so ants can take it to the queen. I have a service dog, and, although I wont let him roll in it or lick it, Im not too concerned about toxicity.

A. Hi Charles. I personally try to discourage ants from my house, but dont see any problems with ants outside — but your situation may be different. Luck & Regards, pic of Ted Mooney Ted Mooney, P.E. RET Striving to live Aloha finishing.com – Pine Beach, New Jersey

FAQ

What happens if a cat licks boric acid?

The good news is that Boric Acid has low toxicity to cats, where a small amount such as you describe has been ingested then it could well be that your cat will not show any symptoms of any sort.

Is it safe to use boric acid around pets?

Will boric acid harm my pets? Boric acid is considered low to moderately toxic to dogs and other mammals when eaten. The formulated product contains only 5% boric acid and is not expected to harm pets. Only ingestion of very large amounts of the granules could cause harm.

Is it safe to use borax around cats?

That brings us to the crucial questions: Is borax toxic to dogs or cats? Or can we clean with this natural ingredient worry-free? Unfortunately, borax is, in fact, toxic to both dogs and cats. And although it’s considered natural, borax can cause harmful side effects in pets—and humans.

Is boron toxic to cats?

On the other hand, studies have shown that extremely high boron intakes are toxic to dogs and cats.